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I feel like its just so outdated. considering how much we know and what the sport requires, you’d think they would adapt. Its actually been frustrating to train for as well. It falls outside of most of the adaptations I’m looking for. We’re having to train for speed, power, and COD for the actual reffing and endurance for the assessment used to choose sir’s. Aside from the physical contact sir’s and players should be capable of the same things.
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Well, I just wrote for 25 minutes only to have everything deleted because my page reloaded… Fuck… here goes take 2.
Multi Stage fitness test, or the BEEP test. Specifically when used to assess individuals ability to be USA rugby Referees.
My reasoning for choosing this is twofold, I work with an athlete who is currently working toward her C1, and beyond. I have some familiarity with her, her training, her capabilities and her attempts at this assessment.
Two, I do not think this is an appropriate assessment for USA rugby Sir’s.
As a sir you are expected to follow play as closely as possible, maintaining stride with the athletes or following close behind. Play typically develops over a few minutes with brief rises and falls in intensity of play. Rarely does running happen longer than 1 min at a time. Because of this I would expect an assessment to test an athletes ability to perform numerous sprints of varying distances, as well as cover some longer distances over extended time.
I would like to see an assessment that included:
20yd flying start
30yd flying start
40yd flying start
300yd shuttle test
Or the
Rugby union fitness test
Advantages: can be done anywhere with minimal equipment. Cones, audio recording, stop watch. Good indicator of aerobic ability. can test multiple athletes at once.
Disadvantages: (in Relation specifically to USA rugby Ref.) Only a good indicator of endurance ability. Does not account for COD or speed.
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I’m typically doing one take and done. I figure the idea is to put ourselves out there, exposed, naked and afraid. My biggest issue is finding enough athletes, mostly working with individuals right now, at least until April, so I’m typically roping in my familia.
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We see examples throughout the text. In our supplimentary text from the NSCA it says that over time through heavy resistance training an athlete develops and adapts their ability to increase motor unit activation, and neural drive, as well as a reduction in inhibitory mechanisms, this all plays into a feedback loop where increased proficiency in these areas leads to higher levels of training which leads to even more increases in motor unit activation, neural drive and the reduction of inhibitory mechanisms.(pg 94-95) All of which are only a part in the larger picture of intra/intermuscular coordinationn. ESTC also says that neural adaptations typically occur before structural changes in skeletal muscle, which would point to the idea that athletes must first develop those neural connections, that intra/intermuscular coordination before we begin to attack changes in the muscular system. Also, “untrained individuals display only a limited ability to recruit motor units”(pg. 96-97) again, showing us that this is a skill to be developed and one that is developed over time through training. Not inherently present in untrained individuals, but over time, with proper volume and intensity these things can be learned, altered, and improved upon.
Also, it states that neural adaptations, improved motor learning and coordination are predominate early in training without increases in muscle hypertrophy, which I would argue again points to a need for a program that addresses that lack of these neural adaptations before addressing force production and hypertrophy. Essentially we cannot expect an athlete to produce gains in strength as well as performance if they have not fist developed their motor learning and coordination. You must crawl before you walk, or you must squat before you SQUAT…
Science and practice points to this throughout the text in describing the progression within intra/intermuscular coordination, we do not just wake up with those neural connections, they need to be trained, through position and posture, from the begining and before an athlete attemps movement with an external load.
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One of the biggest limiting factors I see in my young athletes that walk through the door is their lack of coordination all the way through. There lack of intramuscular coordination and inability to effectively recruit motor units and utilize rate coding, their overall lack of intramuscular coordination. This of course can be learned and it is expected that we will effectively, efficiently and intelligently generate programming for our athletes to achieve this, but fresh off the boat, these kids have as much structural integrity as a soggy piece of bread and move like gumby. We cant ask an athlete to load up the bar and squat, press or pull if they lack the ability to adequately recruit motor units, or they display ineffective or inadequate rate coding; i.e. they have never even done any heavy resistance training. We certainly cannot expect them to perform these movements if they lack the ability to coordinate between different muscle groups. I learned this the hard way and quickly, on the fly, was forced to teach kids how to crawl, and only touched on how to walk. In my experience when i get a kid who is 12-15 they lack so much intra and intermuscular coordination that barbells are almost out of the question. Now, im spending the first 6 weeks on movement, position, isometric strength, and hitting concentric and eccentric contractions via KB and DB movements. Some kids learn faster than others but in my experience, that is the number one limiting factor to the “amateur” athletes I see. Granted, some kids may have some “weightlifting” experience, but rarely have the made the connections necessary to safely and proficiently move through space with external load. Once those kids develop that muscular coordination they take off like a bat out of hell…
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So had to film this in two videos. Filmed another attempt yesterday that was gold, but never even started the camera.
Watching myself is rough. I don’t remember saying any of this. Also, not sure who coined the term, but Lululemon butt is official. -
Literally watching my videos upload to youtube now. Slower than molasses. As soon as they’re done Ill post…
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Bunch bowl hips is one of my favorite. “dont spill the punch or Ill kill you” works every time.
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@benkuch, an unwillingness to step in on something like that IMO is an incredible misstep from a coaches perspective. No athlete should be above constructive criticism, practice, or correction. In the case of RG3, “if it aint broke dont fix it”, was the worst thing that could have happened to him. Someone could have saved his career.
I met a woman at my FMS certification who worked with Washington as a PT, she said when she was talking with their strength coach one day he didn’t understand internal and external rotation, not sure if its true or not but i’d believe it.
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Two things, I stopped using the Vertical jump becuase without a vertec jump tester I just found it difficult to measure accurately. I now just use the standing long jump as my test for power and explosiveness.
Secondly, how the fuck did no one, at any point, grab RG3 and fucking help him. The entire Washington R. staff should be fucking removed. That shit is unreal.
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This one get me, I am not in any way a part of the US military but I do/have worked with a lot of active and retired guys. I never understood why this test was the go to, and why so many people struggle with it. Knowing what active duty guys go through down range and what the demands on their fitness are this test always seemed to be lacking a bit… I actually like the push up, sit up, run test but wish there was a bit more. I never understood why a timed ruck march wasn’t part of this test, as well as some more rigorous PT. The ruck march would be easy to measure and a standard could definitely be upheld. I suppose though they want to find a balance between allowing as many guys as they can to pass to keep up numbers and making the test difficult enough that any joker off the street wont be able to pass. I would like to see a 5-10mile ruck march added to this, maybe 15min/mile pace, as well as some sort of welcome party type PT just to test mental fortitude and willingness to suffer a bit, just a teeny tiny kick in the nuts.
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One of the biggest issues I had with this assessment when I attended the seminar was that they one, seemed to set you up for failure to prove that you needed their corrective exercises. The squat was almost so narrow that it was impossible to achieve the movement and you would inevitably recieve a 1 or 2. Second, they provide zero instruction on how to actually perform the movement, again, to seemingly set you up for failure. I saw at least 30 people receive a 1 on a particular movement but after 10 seconds of explanation in the correct movement patterns they immediately scored 2’s and 3’s. My last issue with this one is that it is incredibly subjective. The different between a “low” 2 and a “high” 2 is huge!. You could perform the movement almost perfectly and receive a 2, and another person would be near failure and also receive a 2. Also, there didn’t seem to be any real standard, one person would interpret the movement as a 3, another person watching the same movement would score it a 2. Plus they repeatedly poopooed overhead pressing and barbell squats.
